Once again, the media/Catholic Progs are all A-Gaga over the Wonderfulness of Pope Francis b/c he's saying Something New and Refreshing About the Apostolic Faith.
No, he's not. Again.
It's a great interview. Candid, personal, etc.
But absolutely boring in terms of basic Church teaching. . .no innovations, no surprises, nothing at all that calls for the '68 Squad to break the tie-dye vestments and the peace bong.
Don't be fooled by the MSM/Catholic Progs who are desperately trying to co-opt the Holy Father for their agenda.
Here's a challenge: find anything in the interview that contradicts the Catechism. One thing.
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Unfortunately for those, including yourself, who are busy trying to explain to the few who care how to understand with an orthodox lens what the pope said, many many more people will read what the mainstream media reports and that will be their take away.
ReplyDeleteThe MSM is going to lie, cheat, steal to make the Church look bad. Never believe a word they write/say about us.
DeleteI may be naive but I was greatly encouraged by the news that the Holy Father spends an hour every evening in Eucharistic Adoration and says the Rosary every day.
ReplyDeleteYea, I wish I had his discipline!
DeleteHere's another challenge: Find anything in the interview that contradicts using a 4-2-4 formation to get an early goal.
ReplyDeletePope Francis is no more talking about the Catechism than he is talking about soccer.
Here is what Pope Francis says: "The message of the Gospel, therefore, is not to be reduced to some aspects that, although relevant, on their own do not show the heart of the message of Jesus Christ."
That's absolutely consistent with the Catechism. It is contrary to the way many Catholics who say they accept the Catechism actually live out their faith.
Tom, couldn't agree more! But I'm getting all sorts of "See! The Pope is changing Church teaching for the better/worse" types of emails-comments. My point: he's not changing anything.
Delete“If the Christian is a restorationist, a legalist, if he wants everything clear and safe, then he will find nothing. Tradition and memory of the past must help us to have the courage to open up new areas to God. Those who today always look for disciplinarian solutions, those who long for an exaggerated doctrinal ‘security,’ those who stubbornly try to recover a past that no longer exists —they have a static and inward-directed view of things. In this way, faith becomes an ideology among other ideologies.”
ReplyDelete- Pope Francis, Supreme Pontiff and Vicar of Christ of the Holy Roman Apostolic Church
Excellent quote! One of my favs from the interview. Are you presenting this as somehow contrary to the CCC?
DeleteIf so, see CCC 94: Thanks to the assistance of the Holy Spirit, the understanding of both the realities and the words of the heritage of faith is able to grow in the life of the Church:
- "through the contemplation and study of believers who ponder these things in their hearts";57 it is in particular "theological research [which] deepens knowledge of revealed truth".
- "from the intimate sense of spiritual realities which [believers] experience", the sacred Scriptures "grow with the one who reads them."
- "from the preaching of those who have received, along with their right of succession in the episcopate, the sure charism of truth"
OR, CCC 40: Since our knowledge of God is limited, our language about him is equally so. We can name God only by taking creatures as our starting point, and in accordance with our limited human ways of knowing and thinking.
OR CCC 270: God is the Father Almighty, whose fatherhood and power shed light on one another: God reveals his fatherly omnipotence by the way he takes care of our needs; by the filial adoption that he gives us ("I will be a father to you, and you shall be my sons and daughters, says the Lord Almighty"): finally by his infinite mercy, for he displays his power at its height by freely forgiving sins.
So, like I said: nothing new.
I'm presenting this as food for thought to those who use their "faith" as an ideological political cudgel.
DeleteAnd if the "progs" are "gaga" what do you call the Defcon 5 trad freakout?
I call it what I've been calling it on Facebook since he was elected: a freakout, a silly, unnecessary freakout.
DeleteSurely a 4-4-2 formation. 4-2-4 would leave you totally exposed in the midfield. And the Pope would call it "football", not "soccer".
ReplyDeleteAnyway, shocking to see the so called conservative Catholics have a conniption and reveal that their devotion and fidelity to the Pope is somewhat shallow. And funny seeing them on the same side as MSNBC and the New York Times.
Where to begin? Benedict didn't speak about abortion, contraception and homosexuality all the time. In fact, hardly ever, and when he did the press went screwy. Jesus never mentioned abortion, contraception and homosexuality. Are we to take it he supported them, condoned them? Clearly not, so why attack the Pope for being like Christ? Of course the liberal media will have a good time. Let them. Because underneath, Pope Francis is drawing a whole cohort of lukewarm Catholics back to interest in the Church. And when they come it's up to us to do our best to welcome them. Now if your first word to a returnee is "Clear off, you're divorced" or "you are excommunicated cos you had an abortion" well, will that work? Consider the prodigal son - the Father running out to meet him, ring off, cloak, fatted calf. You can guarantee the next day there was a serious talk - but after the welcome. Meanwhile the self righteous prig was moaning in the corner. God preserve us from this. I'm a very conservative Catholic and top of my list of beliefs is that this Pope is the vicar of Christ and he has something important to say to us.
I am a former Dominican. Jesuits have always baffled me. It's a style of Catholicism that completely escapes me. (I have a couple of theology degrees, so it's not that I'm incapable.) This Pope's Jesuit style baffles and escapes me.
ReplyDeleteI read the full interview. I know that you are committed to putting the best face on everything he does, because he's the Pope, but the man sows confusion wherever he goes.
I'm not "putting the best face" on anything. He hasn't said anything that needs a spin.
DeleteThe Pope makes people uncomfortable, gets them out of their complacency. I've no in depth theological instruction but didn't Jesus do pretty much the same? Coulda sworn that was one of the things that got Him crucified. If the Pope does the same wouldn't that qualify him as "doing the job" he was selected by the Holy Spirit to do? Even a retired knuckledragging sub sailor can see that one!
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