24 November 2008

Dissenters "Leaping Forward" Into Deeper Irrelevance

Aging Hippie Dinosaur Alert!!!

Most of the dissident "Catholic" groups in the U.S. are planning a gathering in 2011 to stamp their feet and publicly pout because the Evil-Phallocentric-Celibate Hierarchy of Roman Catholic Church has repeatedly refused their demands to ignore Christ and turn his Church into the world's largest group-therapy session.

Here's what I found:

from a newsletter sent to ARCC members on Friday Professor Swidler writes:

The Reform Movement of the Catholic Church in America — in the spirit of Vatican II [WARNING!!! This guy is seeing ghosts! The actual Spirit of Vatican Two is the Holy Spirit who founded the Church on the Rock of Peter and his successors, the Popes.]— is on the cusp of a "Great Leap Forward", to borrow a phrase from Mao [Yes. You read that correctly. This "Catholic" is quoting Mao, the genocidal commie dictator of China, a man who destroyed over 5,000 years of Chinese history and culture in a decade, not to mention millions of lives. . .go no further in looking for the spiritual inspiration of this conference.] ARCC has for several years been promoting the idea of all the major Catholic Reform groups in the U.S. joining together in an American Catholic Council to move our common agenda forward. That Great Leap Forward is now being launched! [Google "great leap forward" and read about how Mao's little plan for economic and political reform worked for the Chinese. . .hint: it threw China back into the middles ages, straving millions, ruining whole industries, and collapsing the nation's economy]. The largest of the American Catholic Reform organizations– Call to Action and Voice of the Faithful–are on board, along with, of course, ARCC, and others. [On board and ready to sink the Church in the U.S.!]

Professor Swidler goes on to outline four major points that have been agreed upon in the discussions that have taken place at the leadership levels of the reform organisations. They are:

1. The basic Resources of the American Catholic Council are the documents of Vatican II [interpreted according to the ghost that this guy claims to see on occasion, of course] and the processes and documents of the 1976 Call To Action led by the National Council of Bishops and involving massive numbers of laity, religious, and priests. [CTA persistent citation of the NCCB as support for its dissent is a farce. Yes, initially, the bishops did endorse the 1976 CTA meeting, but quickly withdrew and repudiated the whole thing b/c the process was hijacked by Maoist moonbats like Swindler here. Again, let a google search show you the way.]

2. The major focus will be on church governance. None of the diverse concerns of the various U.S. Catholic reform organizations will be attainable unless there are structural means to work toward their implementation. That means, minimally, striving for Catholic Church decision-making structures that are built on the democratic principles of accountability, transparency, representativeness, and due process of law. [Christ didn't found a democratic church for a reason. . .that reason? Check out the Episcopal Church in its current state and tell me if that's what you want the Catholic Church to look like. The real goal here, of course, is not democratization but the elimination of the RCC as a teacher of the objective truth of the gospel. Once the Nicene Creed is up for majority vote, the Church as Christ found it loses all authority to oppose the pelvic politics of the aging Baby Boomers.]

3. There will be the widest possible solicitation of input from all levels of Catholics around the country [Yea, right. I bet that input will not include orthodox believers. Much like the '76 CTA fiasco, the panels, podiums, polls will be stacked with dissenters and heretics.] Techniques that have already been discussed include national public hearings (as was done in 1976), approaches to parish organizations as well as organizations of laity, religious, and clergy, internet and other electronic means. Concrete suggestions in this area are especially solicited from you! [And we'll even consider them if they neatly fit into our pre-baked notion of what counts as truth from our side of the bonfire!]

4. The initial aim will be the coming together of thousands of chosen delegates and interested Catholics from around the country in an American Catholic Council in the year 2011. [Hold your nose! This one is gonna stink. Of course, I have to wonder how many of these AHD will still be with us in body come 2011.]

Fair Warning: This part is a rant. . .

Go to bed tonight giving God thanks that most of the young men in our nation's seminaries are orthodox Catholics. Give Him thanks for the thriving orders of orthodox sisters and brothers and the up and coming ranks of educated lay folks who have wised up and shown Sr. Moonbat and Fr. Rainbow to the door of their classrooms.

This dissident circus is one of many "last gasps" of a revolutionary generation in the Church that has failed to knock the Church off her Rock. Expect more these public temper tantrums before they finally hang up their felt banners, their tie-dye vestments, and douse the coals of the Spirit of Vatican Two Peace Bong.

Though they have failed to destroy the Church from the root, they have done wonders for the Enemy along the way. They have driven millions out of the Church; vandalized the Mass and the other sacraments; emptied the seminaries and convents; radicalized Catholic universities against the Church; raised at least two generations of Catholics who know next to nothing about their own faith; ushered in a sexualized spirituality that allowed, encouraged, and then covered up the molestation scandal; created a fake shortage of priests by excluding orthodox vocations on ideological grounds; gave us a Catholic electorate so confused morally that they voted in huge numbers for the most extreme supporter of baby killing ever to run for public office in this country.

Rather than gathering to celebrate their alleged "wisdom" these ego-manical clowns should be gathering to offer this country's Catholics an apology for the disaster that their narcissistic experimentation and dissent has left my generation and those younger to clean up. CTA, VOTF, etc. are little more than organized swarms of spiritual leeches, sucking the life from the Church for no other reason than that the Church will not yield to their tantrums.

There is hope, brothers and sister. I give you the Tick-Tick Solution to our Generation Narcissus problem: "ticktockticktockticktock. . . ."

(And please spare me the finger-wagging in the comboxes about how we are supposed to love one another. . .I am well aware of that. . .I am also aware that very often "being polite in matters of politics and religion" is little more than a cowardly excuse for keeping quiet so that the dinner party invitations keep coming. . .not a big concern of mine. Time to speak truth to lies.)


  1. Anonymous10:39 AM

    Dear Fr Philip

    This post had me giggling...

    A spectre is haunting the Church--the "spirit of Vatican II" (that is not found in the documents, but was Oh-so-obviously-there according to the Swidlers of this world). All the powers of unam sanctam have entered into a holy alliance to exorcise this spectre: Pope Benedict, the college of Cardinals, the orders and the New Movements...

  2. I for one always thought that admonishing sinners was on the list of spiritual works of mercy, yet somehow making dinner parties wasn't on the corporal works, IIRC. ;-)

  3. Oh! They are following the Documents of Vatican II, excellent!

    You mean that they are going to affirm Latin as the mother tongue of the Church and give Gregorian Chant it's place of primacy in the Mass, and that no one may change the mass as it is written?!?

    No?? Then what Vatican II documents are the reading??

  4. Wow! Preach it, Father.

  5. Can someone throw a Catechism at these people's heads, please?

    Instead of following the so-called "spirit" of Vatican II, I would put my trust in the interpretation of people who were actually there ... like, oh, Pope JPII and Pope BXVI!

    victim of the "Spirit-of-Vatican II"
    (born in the 70's and pseudo-catechized in the 80's ... need I say more?)

  6. So in other words the nutty professor is saying, "We're dying off, the economy's bad and the Ford Foundation/Eli Lilly/Pew guys are all tapped out. If we band together, we can keep the lights on in our rented CTA/VOTF/QP/ARCC/CFFC/WOC/EIEIO offices for at least a couple more years."

  7. Anonymous2:26 PM

    Indeed, father, it's time to whip them out of the temple. How else could they repent?

    Christe, miserere nobis.

  8. Anonymous2:32 PM

    Yes! You have no idea how cathartic it is to read a post like this. Most of my undergraduate career was spent putting up with various incarnations of Fr. Rainbow and the Violators of the Faith crowd. (I always found it amusing that the "laypeople" should be given a vote in everything, but as soon as my friends and I piped up for orthodoxy, we were magically disenfranchised...)

    It's gonna take a lot of time and work to clean up the mess, but Christ will guide us and give us the grace to do it!

    God Bless!

  9. Anonymous4:47 PM

    Sr. Moonbat taught my prayer class during my undergrad. I think she became a sister only because she wanted Fr. Rainbow's "job" and figured that being a sister would cut out some of her time in seminary. =-p

    Posts like this make me happy because they reconfirm, "No, I'm NOT crazy!" (Well, not like that! ;) )

  10. Anonymous8:52 PM

    Way to go on the rant, Padre! TWO THUMBS UP!

    I'm toasting my Shiner to you as I write this!



  11. IF they're so organized, why is it taking them 3 years to have a conference? Don't they realize that 50% of their constituency could be dead by then?

  12. Anonymous10:27 PM

    You go, Father! I love your rants. Why? Because you make sense! Because you do, indeed, speak truth to, oh, so many lies!

  13. humm I don't quite know where to begin here.

    coming from what is probably the MOST democratic mainstream Christian religion...the Methodists--who have to have a committee decide whether or not to have a different committee vote on whether or not to turn the heat up in the winter.....(I kid you NOT).....I shall quote my hubby.

    "If Moses was a committee, Israel would STILL be in Egypt."

    Father, you've mentioned to me before how some Priests aren't exactly educated in Catholicism....it just amazes me.

    And about that fingerwaggingloveoneanotherstuff.

    Jesus spent an awful lot of time ticking off the religious leaders who'd gotten the whole thing wrong.

    so rant away...helps us all learn a bit. :-)

  14. Anonymous6:09 AM

    I like the idea of their convening public hearings - very Maoist!

  15. Anonymous9:20 AM

    Bravo, Father -- well said! I'm with you 100%. I'm sick of the culture of "nice", which IMO is a total copout for slack, dumbed-down behaviour, lack of organization, and so much lousy liturgy, esp. liturgical music. I was an organist for 20 yrs. and quit after realizing that I was just banging my head against a brick wall. These committees, etc. are useless, IMO. because their focus is not on Jesus -- that's what happened, the focus on Christ was lost, and shifted to us. The parish I attend now is "run" by a laywoman - apparently, they're "used to doing things that way", and the pastor hasn't the intestinal fortitude to rein this woman in. Unfortunately, there are many priests like him -- we need more REAL MEN in the priesthood, and I pray that God sends us some, at least in my lifetime (I'm 62). Thanks again, Fr., and keep up the good work.

  16. Anonymous10:52 AM


    We all need an Elijah, an Elisha, a Jeremiah, an Isaiah, a John the Baptist now and then. Indeed, I have to wonder if the dissidents would have approved on how St. Paul unmistakably and forcibly correct the churches in Galatia for their moonbat ways, how St. John reprimanded Jezebel in the Church of Thyatira, or how St. Peter confronted Ananias and Sapphira, both of whom were slain by the Spirit of the living God for lying.

    If God is a God of infinite Love (which He is), then He is a God of eternal Justice also - two sides of the same coin. Time is running out for the heretical ones. They need to read what the Lord God says about apostate religious in Jeremiah 23 and Ezekiel 34.

    You keep up the good work, Father!


    Paul Primavera

  17. If they're going to have an "American Catholic Council" and NOT talk about the REAL issue we're facing (need I say it? congruism), then include me out.

  18. Anonymous10:21 PM

    Thank you, Father. We are hungry for the truth.

  19. forget the spirit of Vatican II, more like the spirit of morality the spirit of anything. gosh these spirits are just floating around like crazy! we should tar and feather them ;)

  20. An articulate summary of the nonsensical rebellious 1960s generation. God speed.

  21. Anonymous11:36 AM

    Father Philip,

    This just put a big smile on my face.

    I make it a point to ignore these sorts of people. My biggest sin would be to give them any kind of relevance by worrying about the sorts of things they say.

    My response to them is the bright light of truth, explaining calmly, clearly and concisely the Church's teaching.

    One guilty pleasure I do have, and placing non-identifying papers back in the VOTF fund raising business reply envelope and sending it back to them (while remaining on the mailing list).

    Maybe they'll all finally "schiz" and form their own AmChurch with all the priestesses, clown presiders, eucharistic ministers and lay homilists they want.

    Then they would stop being the poison (instead of leaven) poisoning the entire loaf.

  22. Anonymous12:58 PM

    Well said, Father. In my experience, people who truly seek Christ are hungry for the truth. The most common complaint I hear these days has to do with the passionless teaching of those who should be shouting from the roof tops! You are doing your job. One of my greatest hopes is to live long enough to see today's young priests become Bishops. God will have His way!

  23. Well said, Father!
    What do you suppose will happen when the Holy Spirit gets all these dissenters in one location? Needless to say, I would leave town that weekend!

  24. Anonymous11:20 AM

    Lone Star PLU,

    I think we KNOW what happens. The lesson of the rebellion of Korah against Moses (and hence the Lord) in Numbers Chapter 16 is quite clear:

    < http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0839/__P3U.HTM >

    250 rebellious idolatars (did I spell that correctly?) were swallowed up into Sheol.

    Verses 10 and 11 in the Epistle of Jude is also quite clear:

    "But these people revile what they do not understand and are destroyed by what they know by nature like irrational animals. Woe to them! They followed the way of Cain, abandoned themselves to Balaam's error for the sake of gain, and perished in the rebellion of Korah. These are blemishes on your love feasts, as they carouse fearlessly and look after themselves. They are waterless clouds blown about by winds, fruitless trees in late autumn, twice dead and uprooted. They are like wild waves of the sea, foaming up their shameless deeds, wandering stars for whom the gloom of darkness has been reserved forever."

    Not even David dared lay his hand against the Lord's annointed, Saul, for indeed, rebellion against our holy bishops and priests is rebellion against God, and God will allow the prepetrators of rebellion (which is SIN) to reap their just reward.

    "The wages of sin are death." No compromise. No rationalizing. No explaining. Just death.

    We have two choices: repent and live or rebel and die. It's really that simple. Time is running out. God will not stay His mighty hand forever. Read Revelation chapter 18 (http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0839/__P131.HTM), substituting NYC or LA or London or Toronto for Babylon. This is what happened to Jerusalem in 70 AD when General Titus razed the Temple to the ground. This is what happened to Rome in the early 5th century AD when the barbarians invaded. Sadly, because we never learn from history, we are always doomed to repeat it.

    Repent for the Kingdom of God is at hand - didn't John the Baptist say that?

    Paul Primavera