tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18842286.post6850830081275137666..comments2024-02-26T09:30:54.111-06:00Comments on Domine, da mihi hanc aquam!: Synod Freak Out!!!Fr. Philip Powell, OPhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14970857401221305221noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18842286.post-6971517359435811182014-10-15T13:57:32.261-05:002014-10-15T13:57:32.261-05:00Thank you, Father, for your reasoned contribution....Thank you, Father, for your reasoned contribution. It's needed and necessary.Larry Denningerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06015803653090711740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18842286.post-26846102261680821132014-10-14T18:47:09.912-05:002014-10-14T18:47:09.912-05:00That strikes me as a very plausible interpretation...That strikes me as a very plausible interpretation. For that matter, I'd be a little surprised if even the Chicken Littlest reading of the relatio was the worst idea in a room with that many bishops.Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09534284662785499386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18842286.post-31902273856612978642014-10-14T17:49:47.679-05:002014-10-14T17:49:47.679-05:00It crossed my mind that Francis might be Jesuitic ...It crossed my mind that Francis might be Jesuitic enough to give rope to the closet heretics, even by giving them the impression that he's one of them and making sure that the relatio is written by them, so that they can hang themselves with it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18842286.post-69342529007213724062014-10-14T17:43:34.534-05:002014-10-14T17:43:34.534-05:00I'm cynical enough -- brought on by my own exp...I'm cynical enough -- brought on by my own experiences in religious life -- to believe that some in the Synod are trying to "manage the narrative" by publishing the relatio. That move backfired. Now, the bishops will be extra careful about what they say and what gets published. Of course, the media will spin any future document as a capitulation to Reactionary Righties. But the media are a mendacious lot, so they hardly matter in matters of truth.Fr. Philip Powell, OPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14970857401221305221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18842286.post-14571226432870786462014-10-14T17:10:50.980-05:002014-10-14T17:10:50.980-05:00My take (worth what you paid for it) is that Pope ...My take (worth what you paid for it) is that Pope Francis the Pastor wants the Synod to brainstorm every possible means of ministering to families, which can't be done without also brainstorming some impossible means too (hence his call for wide open conversation).<br /><br />I don't myself see the prudence of publicizing the relatio, but any unspoken motives or intentions of any of the parties involved are underdetermined by the information I have.Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09534284662785499386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18842286.post-51260721177104900582014-10-14T11:29:27.582-05:002014-10-14T11:29:27.582-05:00I've read the first seven councils. It was ac...I've read the first seven councils. It was actually quite saddening in two ways- first, when talking to others about it, I would get stuff like, "I don't know if I believe that," which is not what I wanted to hear someone supposedly faithful to the Church say. Secondly, some of the more non-doctrinal stuff genuinely seemed like bickering. Lets not fast when the Jews do, lets ban anyone from going to a Jewish doctor (can't remember if this was actually in one of the first seven or somewhere else). And then good stuff, like asserting the autonomy of Cyprus- we ought to take that and apply it everywhere so those with a desire for power no longer have anywhere to go. Besides the press, the Catholic bloggers are going a bit nuts on this too. We wouldn't be particularly bad off if the Orthodox model was adopted. But whichever nutball decided to mention homosexuals in that interim report should be fired immediately. And deposed as well, probably. Augusthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08758314961163692341noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18842286.post-69652476602111342722014-10-14T11:25:38.476-05:002014-10-14T11:25:38.476-05:00We have to see what kind of sausage the sausage-ma...We have to see what kind of sausage the sausage-making makes. Fr. Philip Powell, OPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14970857401221305221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18842286.post-58604201351250647352014-10-14T11:04:52.755-05:002014-10-14T11:04:52.755-05:00At the same time, a Pollyanna view that the succes...At the same time, a Pollyanna view that the successors of the Apostles cannot whiff and waft heresy for centuries, leading millions to eternal damnation, is childish. Ask St. Nicholas.<br /><br />And, given that the whiffers and wafters were handpicked by pope Francis affronting subsidiarity, it's disingenuous to suggest that this is merely sausage making and not an intended goal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com