tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18842286.post7823623385794774439..comments2024-02-26T09:30:54.111-06:00Comments on Domine, da mihi hanc aquam!: "an incredible audacity under a mock semblance of humility"Fr. Philip Powell, OPhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14970857401221305221noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18842286.post-61365067161826322732009-04-07T10:22:00.000-05:002009-04-07T10:22:00.000-05:00Dennis,In matters of conscience (a well-formed one...Dennis,<BR/><BR/>In matters of conscience (a well-formed one!), we are not obliged to obey anyone; meaning, that if a superior of any sort tells you to murder or steal or rape or pillage, etc., you are not obliged to obey. Ninety-nine percent of the stuff we get our knickers in a twist about when it comes to our superiors doesn't fall under this heading. For example, liturgical styles, habits, etc. This is why obedience is often tested in the small things not the big ones.Fr. Philip Powell, OPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14970857401221305221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18842286.post-47032262484000924192009-04-07T09:43:00.000-05:002009-04-07T09:43:00.000-05:00So, how does obedience fit in when being led by a ...So, how does obedience fit in when being led by a "progressive superior"? As a convert and now a secular Carmelite, I have studied and struggled with obedience. I found it easy with Pope John Paul II and was releived when Pope Benedict was chosen. I have wondered how I would react if a "progressive" made it to the top. Obedience says I follow God's will in the form of the superior's direction. I already struggle with the progressive things allowed by our 60's trained pastor. What's one to do?<BR/><BR/>DennisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18842286.post-37241421145709219842009-04-07T02:22:00.000-05:002009-04-07T02:22:00.000-05:00StM.,Yup. You are right. What's really galling is ...StM.,<BR/><BR/>Yup. You are right. What's really galling is when those progressive superiors use canonical sanctions against orthodox priests and religious. Pleas of conscience are rarely heard...unless they are coming from the correct sort of consciences. How many bishops and superiors tolerate dissent and outright rebellion against the Church when it comes from fellow progressives, yet smack down those who want to celebrate the Extraordinary Form of the Mass or institute Adoration? Sad, I know.Fr. Philip Powell, OPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14970857401221305221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18842286.post-49079693232724618582009-04-07T00:48:00.000-05:002009-04-07T00:48:00.000-05:00One can only wonder, then, in our current environm...One can only wonder, then, in our current environment of dissent how different the normal Catholics act under pressure from their "progressive" superiors. It pains the normal folks a great deal more to have to withstand authority, and as a consequence they usually don't.StMichaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03396530635424749173noreply@blogger.com