tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18842286.post6519907575074599503..comments2024-02-26T09:30:54.111-06:00Comments on Domine, da mihi hanc aquam!: Haight "punished" by the CDF (Updated)Fr. Philip Powell, OPhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14970857401221305221noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18842286.post-3656025328707326252009-01-09T05:44:00.000-06:002009-01-09T05:44:00.000-06:00(blushing)....ummmm...that should read "spanking N...(blushing)....ummmm...that should read "spanking NEW toys..."<BR/><BR/>Oy. I have to stop replying to comments at 4 in the morning.Fr. Philip Powell, OPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14970857401221305221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18842286.post-16344558741408820592009-01-09T05:02:00.000-06:002009-01-09T05:02:00.000-06:00"Yet, despite all of these spanking toys to play w..."Yet, despite all of these spanking toys to play with"<BR/><BR/>pleeeeease tell me I read that wrong!MightyMomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02563721884001643857noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18842286.post-52671848534497431542009-01-08T20:18:00.000-06:002009-01-08T20:18:00.000-06:00Fr.Philip, keep up the Good work!Fr.Philip, keep up the Good work!N.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14319122125249787860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18842286.post-92013233760314721242009-01-08T14:34:00.000-06:002009-01-08T14:34:00.000-06:00Nancy,One of the ironies of these contemporary her...Nancy,<BR/><BR/>One of the ironies of these contemporary heretical re-hashing is that they are presented as if they are Brand New! <BR/><BR/>The methodology of Haight's book is stuffed with references to recent developments in theology, modern critical approaches, the newest discoveries, etc. Yet, despite all of these spanking toys to play with...he comes up with a centuries old heresy. Weird.Fr. Philip Powell, OPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14970857401221305221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18842286.post-949622539868381942009-01-08T14:19:00.000-06:002009-01-08T14:19:00.000-06:00One does not have to be one of the cast of charact...One does not have to be one of the cast of characters in the "Emperor's New Clothes", to recognize these recycled heresies. Why does it take so long to see what is OBVIOUS?N.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14319122125249787860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18842286.post-66481679621788502432009-01-08T09:39:00.000-06:002009-01-08T09:39:00.000-06:00I think that it was Scott Hahn who said that Theol...I think that it was Scott Hahn who said that Theology must be practiced on one's knees. It doesn't look like Haight was doing this, priest or not.<BR/><BR/>May St. John Vianney pray for us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18842286.post-57168455144698310602009-01-07T21:46:00.000-06:002009-01-07T21:46:00.000-06:00Kate,I don't know the names. It's becoming cleare...Kate,<BR/><BR/>I don't know the names. It's becoming clearer and clearer that the SJ leadership in the US has taken up the detailed investigation. Likely, this was done at the request of the CDF. This allows the SJ's to review one of their own in lieu of a potentially invasive review by the CDF. If this is the case, then I would imagine that the American SJ's selected would be orthodox...if for no other reason than to insure that the CDF has nothing to complain about when the review is done.<BR/><BR/>I should note here that Haight rec'd high praise for the book, especially his treatment of the early councils, but reviewers consistently pointed out methodological as well as theological problems with his argument. For the most part, his arguments were described as "unnecessarily reductive" and "minimalist." There is little doubt in my mind that Haight is an amazing scholar, but his conclusions in the book contradict centuries of Christian teaching.<BR/><BR/>My own frustration in all of this is the entirely predictable whining of Catholic academic theologians that the Dark Lords of the CDF are trying once again to rob the simple Hobbits of the University Shire of their untouchable right to poke the Church in the eye any time it serves to pad their CV's.Fr. Philip Powell, OPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14970857401221305221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18842286.post-3775974710263530832009-01-07T21:14:00.000-06:002009-01-07T21:14:00.000-06:00Re: UpdateI'm curious to know who the three Americ...Re: Update<BR/><BR/>I'm curious to know who the three American Jesuit theologians are. Are they dissidents like Fr. Haight?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18842286.post-58809167205963201122009-01-06T10:21:00.000-06:002009-01-06T10:21:00.000-06:00And the good Holy Spirit reminded us yesterday:"Th...And the good Holy Spirit reminded us yesterday:<BR/><BR/>"This is how you can know the Spirit of God: every spirit that acknowledges Jesus Christ come in the flesh belongs to God, and every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus<BR/>does not belong to God. This is the spirit of the antichrist..." (1 Jn 3)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18842286.post-36880657557438039132009-01-05T22:04:00.000-06:002009-01-05T22:04:00.000-06:00That's a good point father. I was perhaps just lo...That's a good point father. I was perhaps just looking for a reason not to read more postmodern gobbledy gook than I had to. A sloth is me. Time to go read...Gobblerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03949346405183981342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18842286.post-33173468477202261582009-01-05T21:26:00.000-06:002009-01-05T21:26:00.000-06:00Gobbler,The CDF's sanctioning of Haight should not...Gobbler,<BR/><BR/>The CDF's sanctioning of Haight should not prevent you from using his work in an academic paper, esp if you are refuting him.<BR/><BR/>Keep in the mind: our Holy Father regularly quotes Nietzsche in his homilies!Fr. Philip Powell, OPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14970857401221305221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18842286.post-25526851208303151512009-01-05T19:53:00.000-06:002009-01-05T19:53:00.000-06:00Well this is timely. I'm currently writing a paper...Well this is timely. I'm currently writing a paper on something like this and Haight was one of the sources I was using that reflects the opposite of my own position. Maybe it's time to go find new sources.Gobblerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03949346405183981342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18842286.post-2130458572541052092009-01-05T12:09:00.000-06:002009-01-05T12:09:00.000-06:00"...cosmic injustice of asking a Catholic theologi..."...cosmic injustice of asking a Catholic theologian to actually teach the Catholic faith."<BR/><BR/>The nerve!!Subvethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13523683273450353313noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18842286.post-34552973962128093412009-01-05T09:48:00.000-06:002009-01-05T09:48:00.000-06:00Christine,Someone once asked a famous dissenting t...Christine,<BR/><BR/>Someone once asked a famous dissenting theologian why she remained in the Church if she found so much of its doctrine and practice so detestable.<BR/><BR/>She answered, "It's where the Xerox machine is." In other words, she remains b/c the Church butters her bread and pays her rent. The Church provides her with the resources she needs to undermine the Church. <BR/><BR/>Make no mistake. These people do not want to destroy the Church. They want to control it.Fr. Philip Powell, OPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14970857401221305221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18842286.post-27340019736793198542009-01-05T09:05:00.000-06:002009-01-05T09:05:00.000-06:00Why do men like this remain in the priesthood? Wh...Why do men like this remain in the priesthood? Why not just follow through where their hearts already are?<BR/><BR/>*sigh*<BR/><BR/>Thank God for Seton's religious ed materials. My girls will know better.<BR/><BR/>Speaking of which, it's time to start our school day.<BR/><BR/>God bless, Father.Christine the Soccer Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01270550419011368834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18842286.post-91641720353257187512009-01-05T06:24:00.000-06:002009-01-05T06:24:00.000-06:00The more I think about it, my life's goal is to wo...The more I think about it, my life's goal is to work for the CDF:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com