tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18842286.post3619973346368485435..comments2024-02-26T09:30:54.111-06:00Comments on Domine, da mihi hanc aquam!: On the dangers of using secular partisan labels in the ChurchFr. Philip Powell, OPhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14970857401221305221noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18842286.post-50096458654268348002013-10-14T11:17:02.047-05:002013-10-14T11:17:02.047-05:00The Eastern Province Student Brothers had a very e...The Eastern Province Student Brothers had a very enlightening piece by Archbishop Di Noia in one of their Dominicana journals. (You can read it here: http://www.dominicanajournal.com/journal/dominicana-542-winter-2011/theological-method-and-the-magisterium-of-the-church-j-augustine-di-noia-o-p/)<br /><br />He talks about how the confrontation with modernity caused the Church to defend base-line doctrines and develop another level of doctrine covering how doctrine is defined. This seems to me to be very relevant to the issue of whether we call ourselves "conservative" or "liberal" and what that means; to the relationship of truth, authority, and change.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18842286.post-51969174663354331862013-10-14T09:34:20.775-05:002013-10-14T09:34:20.775-05:00I doubt many recognize the fallacy as a fallacy - ...I doubt many recognize the fallacy as a fallacy - but I can only speak to what I see here. I have heard that very argument, that since the Church "changed/changes" (not really liking that word) to meet certain situations or challenges that she Should change based on some other demand or pressure from society. I usually just do the "dog doesn't understand head tilt" while looking at them quizzically :-).<br /><br />As far as labels go, I bristle when I hear people describe me and my slant in the faith formation group as very conservative - to which I respond, with a smile, that I am simply orthodox, simply Catholic - neither conservative nor liberal nor progressive or whateverotherlabel you want to name it. My personal Liturgical preference leans toward the traditional side, but that is merely a preference and has (or should have) nothing to do with my fidelity to the Church and her teachings/authority.Shellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05485793986602894527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18842286.post-87683425732093645702013-10-12T20:37:43.617-05:002013-10-12T20:37:43.617-05:00It depends by what is meant by "change"....It depends by what is meant by "change". Some things cannot change, some ought not to change. Change is not a value. Lyndahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01714204002726632689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18842286.post-45882574532558062742013-10-12T15:37:21.893-05:002013-10-12T15:37:21.893-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.LudiDomesticinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18842286.post-74378365671131791342013-10-12T10:05:07.117-05:002013-10-12T10:05:07.117-05:00"...using secular partisan labels also places..."...using secular partisan labels also places our anxieties about immediate change at the center of the Gospel rather than seeing these worries as peripheral to Christ's charge to go out and preach."<br /><br />It also, I think, inclines us toward alliances and allegiances outside the Church. If I call myself a political conservative and a religious conservative, then I may start finding my religious arguments, goals, and perspectives affected (if not determined) by my politics; it all becomes undifferentiated conservatism. It facilitates, at the very least, the monstrous arguments we've heard from Democrats for Obama and the risible pro-war claims made a decade ago.Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09534284662785499386noreply@blogger.com