tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18842286.post113447628437811381..comments2024-02-26T09:30:54.111-06:00Comments on Domine, da mihi hanc aquam!: Invincible ignorance...Fr. Philip Powell, OPhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14970857401221305221noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18842286.post-1134830029179517132005-12-17T08:33:00.000-06:002005-12-17T08:33:00.000-06:00Thanks for the explanation of your usage! I also ...Thanks for the explanation of your usage! I also found the following <A HREF="http://www.cuyamaca.net/bruce.thompson/Fallacies/invincible_ignorance.asp" REL="nofollow">quote</A> which explains my confusion:<BR/><BR/>"The term 'invincible ignorance' has its roots in Catholic theology, where it is used to refer to the state of persons (such as pagans and infants) who are ignorant of the Christian message because they have not yet had an opportunity to hear it. . . . When and how the term was stolen by logicians to refer to the state of persons who pigheadedly refuse to attend to evidence remains unclear."<BR/><BR/>Since I have studied theology but not logical fallicies, I didn't know the term had two such opposite uses.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18842286.post-1134827700483189252005-12-17T07:55:00.000-06:002005-12-17T07:55:00.000-06:00I hope I'm remembering my informal fallacies from ...I hope I'm remembering my informal fallacies from Phil 101! Invincible ignorance is that sort of not knowing that one guards with any and every tactic available. IOW, it is being ignorant but being willfully "ignorant" in the face of overwhelming evdience that what one believes is incorrect. The chief priests and elders don't seem to be assertively rejecting Jesus' claim about being the Messiah, but they are continuing to guard their "ignorance" about who he truly is by constantly throwing questions, objections, reservations, etc. Jesus is frustrated with their disbelief b/c they have the scriptural background and intelligence to see and hear that he is the Lord.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the great question--hope I managed to answer it.<BR/><BR/>Fr. Philip Neri, OPFr. Philip Powell, OPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14970857401221305221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18842286.post-1134790795570992842005-12-16T21:39:00.000-06:002005-12-16T21:39:00.000-06:00Well, moving on . . .Could you clarify your use of...Well, moving on . . .<BR/><BR/>Could you clarify your use of "invincibly ignorant" for me? My understanding is that if you stick your fingers in your ears and say "lalala" in order to not hear the truth, then you are vincibly ignorant (you don't know, but it's your fault), while if you are a savage in the jungle, or simply never ever taught table manners, you are invincibly ignorant (not your fault because you couldn't help it).<BR/><BR/>So if the chief priests and elders have all the evidence, and yet purposefully refuse to believe, how can that be INvincible ignorance?<BR/><BR/>I can't tell if it's a typo, or if I don't get what you're saying. :) (Also, thanks for the comment on my blog!)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18842286.post-1134563129310210002005-12-14T06:25:00.000-06:002005-12-14T06:25:00.000-06:00"Well, either comment tells us that your instructo..."Well, either comment tells us that your instructor thought you guys were full of B.S."<BR/><BR/>Yup. And we were. Dr. Flynn was very dedicated to the local Humane Society and its animal shelter. His saying was his way of putting things in perspective. And we got the point very quickly. When he used that saying we knew the argument was over. Move on.Fr. Philip Powell, OPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14970857401221305221noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18842286.post-1134559508492732732005-12-14T05:25:00.000-06:002005-12-14T05:25:00.000-06:00Well, either comment tells us that your instructor...Well, either comment tells us that your instructor thought you guys were full of B.S.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18842286.post-1134530625763786312005-12-13T21:23:00.000-06:002005-12-13T21:23:00.000-06:00Father, your professor may have been having a litt...Father, your professor may have been having a little fun with his students. Here in Virginia that phrase refers to severe constipation.Dymphnahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01469622835449220113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18842286.post-1134515346731863312005-12-13T17:09:00.000-06:002005-12-13T17:09:00.000-06:00You do know that this expression means that you ar...You do know that this expression means that you are leaving to go to the bathroom. Really.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com